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From the National Post:

Our forces are running out of boots
The army has a simple hope that all new recruits can be issued at least one pair
 
Chris Wattie
National Post

February 18, 2005

 
Plans to expand the ranks of the Canadian Forces by up to 5,000 new troops -- expected to be one of the key new spending initiatives in next week's federal budget -- are running into a prosaic roadblock: army boots.

According to documents obtained by the National Post, the military is running out of combat boots for its new recruits, even before the widely anticipated announcement of additional soldiers.

An unclassified "CanForGen" message, a directive from the head of the army to all supply depots, says several common sizes of the Canadian Forces' black high-topped combat boots are out of stock and several others "are at critical levels."

The army quartermasters are ordered to issue instead "substitute boots" such as the heavier all-weather combat boots or older, used footwear. "It is our hope that we will be able to at least ensure all new recruits have at least one pair of boots."

Critics say the boot shortage makes a mockery of the Liberal government's pledge, made during last summer's federal election campaign, to bolster the ranks of the Canadian Forces by 5,000 new troops and to add another 3,000 part-time soldiers to the reserves.

In the House of Commons this week, Bill Graham, the Defence Minister, promised a substantial increase in defence spending in the Feb. 23 federal budget. "Watch this budget," the Minister said on Tuesday during Question Period. "We are turning the corner. We will be delivering, as we have indicated, the resources our forces need to provide the role that they do in the world."

Much of that increased spending is expected to be allocated to the additional men and women in uniform, but Gordon O'Connor, the Conservative defence critic, said the fact the army does not have enough boots for the new recruits speaks volumes about the government's defence policy.

"This announcement was a political gambit during the last election ... It was never thought out -- they just threw it out like a grenade on the table," Mr. O'Connor said. "Ever since, the Defence Department has been scrambling to figure out how to do it.

"They can't bring people aboard and give them civilian shoes. If they don't have boots, they can't bring them aboard ... It's so screwed up and so underfunded, it's just something awful."

He said the military is so short of trained personnel, funding and equipment, it will take more than five years to bring the new soldiers into the ranks.

"They're short of instructors. Their recruiting and training system's a mess," he said. "There's about 10,000 people right now stuck in the training system."

Mr. O'Connor said it will take a budget of $18-billion -- up from defence spending of about $13.2-billion -- and at least four years to reverse the effects of more than 10 years of funding and personnel cuts.

"It will take a number of years to stop the rot and start pushing it back," he said.

A spokeswoman for the Department of National Defence said the government had placed an order for more than 50,000 pairs of "Boots, combat Mark III."

Elizabeth Hodges said the $4.5-million contract with a southern Ontario shoe manufacturer specified that the additional boots were to be finished by the end of February but she did not know if the delivery was on schedule.

Howard Marsh, a retired army colonel and analyst for the Conference of Defence Associations, says the boot shortage is symptomatic of a much more troubling problem in the military: the "dumbing down" of the Canadian Forces.

"The Canadian Forces is getting a lot younger, and what's getting lost is the years of experience of senior officers or non-commissioned officers who are retiring," he said. "We've got this black hole in experience levels."

Colonel Marsh said that over the next eight years a number of senior soldiers will reach their early retirement date and many will leave the military, taking with them a wealth of on-the-job experience.

"There aren't enough of those senior warrant officers with 20 years' experience who realize when the generals say we're adding 5,000 new troops that means we're also going to need more combat boots.

"This is just the start of a long season of inexperience," Col. Marsh said. "It could get a lot worse than boots if we start getting people making mistakes with live ammunition or technicians putting the wrong part in a Sea King [helicopter], for instance."

© National Post 2005
 
Nope! When I recieved my kit mid-January, they didn't even have CAP badges for us! Only 1 pair of boots, which I don't mind at all. Several other smaller types of things were missing like certain gloves or muckluck insoles, air matress bag, etc. Not too bad overall, then on the other hand we recieved some very new gucci like kit. Brand new Gerbers, gas masks, uniforms and goggles etc...

I can't complain, I knew what it would be like when I joined and I'm lovin' it!

I want to see this new "oohh-ahhhh" defense budget so bad! See if maybe this wasn't the perfect time to join or not for a few reasons:

Politics might play in our favour at this time for once----> More spending=More training avail+equipment/toys
Lack/shortage of experienced instructors-------------------> Better chance of quicker promotion+training

For newbies like me, things seem hopeful at the moment. This can always change for the worse though of course...
 
I have two pairs of combat boots and two pairs of gore-tex boots and some ppl cant even get one pair? :-\
 
I remember when I re-enlisted there was a boot shortage (This was Spring 1998).  I retained my rank as an NCO.  I had fight to get issued a pair of Jungle boots (black) just to wear with my combat uniform.
You can well imagine how many people came up to me asking why I, an NCO, was wearing the incorrect boot in garrison.  Until replenishment came in I went out and bought a pair of Surplus boots.
 
Da_man said:
I have two pairs of combat boots and two pairs of gore-tex boots and some ppl cant even get one pair? :-\

Me too.
 
You've gotta remember though guys, the longer your in, the more "stuff" you seem to aquire in your travels.

Who else thinks this is probably a non-issue, embellished by our great media to seem worse off than it is?  Sure, the Forces are short on all kinds of gear, and it seems "epidemic" when you look at it with a microscope.  But, in the end, you'll eventually get what kit you need, and you'll never go overseas without all the latest gucci kit - just look at Op. Athena. 
 
The problem with issuing one set of boots esp for the combat arms is that in their basic and trade courses they are going to be in the elements and their feet will get wet.  If your in the field for 2 weeks and on day 2 your feet get wet and you don't have another set of boots to issue then your going to be in the hurt locker.

Perhaps a way to alliviate this is to give troops money and a catalogue of where they can buy boots from.
 
Hey who cares about boots (I don't think I've been on a tour yet where they actually had my size) just keep them pay raises rolling in.
 
Has anyone else really had problem with this?  I just got all my WWB's and Mk 3's exchanged, no problems on size or quantity issued.  From what I can see in the warehouse they came form, there are a load of them.
 
I think boots are procured in batches and have a long lead time. They estimate the number of boots of each size they will need based on current stock and any projections they can cobble together. This leads to problems if conditions have changed since the estimates were made. It's even worse when the numbers were already on the conservative side due to budget constraints. They get the lowest cost per boot this way but can end up with tons of some sizes and none of others or a warehouse of boots that are now obsolete and must be disposed of.

 
DBA said:
I think boots are procured in batches and have a long lead time. They estimate the number of boots of each size they will need based on current stock and any projections they can cobble together. This leads to problems if conditions have changed since the estimates were made. It's even worse when the numbers were already on the conservative side due to budget constraints. They get the lowest cost per boot this way but can end up with tons of some sizes and none of others or a warehouse of boots that are now obsolete and must be disposed of.

Excellent analysis, DBA - especially when we see the sizes that are "short".
Yikes!  I can't even imagine size 2 cbt boots ... unless they're dangling from the rearview mirror of my mighty Suburban ... so, with all due respect to munchkins, Mighty Mouse, and The Little People ... laugh all you want at big, brutish combat arms trained bears who wear double-digit sized boots big enough to use as snowshoes (and, you all know what they say about shoe size ... it DOES matter ...), but ... it would seem that many of the sizes in short supply right now are slightly on the Barbie/small side ... and thus, one might begin to wonder if the Army is suffering from shrinkage in both numbers and vertical prowess ... ? 

Not sure whether this was a CANFORGEN or CANLANDGEN - UNCLAS 123/04 CLS 026-04:

... the following Combat Boots are out of stock at Depots:
stock # 21-888-7064 size 3-3.5 E,
        # 21-888-7065 size 3-3.5 F,
        # 21-888-7069 size 4 E, and
        # 21-904-6619 size 2-2.5 F.
The following Combat boots are at critical levels:
stock # 21-888-7070 size 4 F,
        # 21-872-4293 size 4.5-5E,
        # 21-872-4305 size 7.5-8 E,
        # 21-872-4308 size 8.5 E, and
        # 21-904-6618 size 2-2.5C.
 
I guess that explains why I can't get new boots.  :'(  I guess I'll just keep wearing my last pair that are still in one piece.  It took me a long time to even get that pair!
 
Shit, I'll send back both pair of hockey pucks (aka Mk IIIs) if they gimme $100 and let me go buy 2 pair of Wellco jungles. I'll eat the extra cost for the jungles if I can rid myself of those damn Mk IIIs. And while Marsh did take a good sized swipe at us younger, "dumber" generation, he does have a point that this is just one symptom of something more systemic in today's force.
 
yeah i was just issued a pair of combats.... aparently im sappose to have 2 pairs but im gratefull never the less
 
Well, my only response to the "Shortage of Boots" is that, I realy dont care. I have got so many pairs of boots that I dont know what to do with them all!
Ive got:
2 Pair WWB
2 Pair "Old Style" Goretex
2 Pair CBT Boot MK III
4 Pair Jungle (Green)
2 Pair Desert
Plus many more...
I think ive got all the bases covered in the "footwear" department.
 
This kind of sucks for all the new recruits.  I'm reading the posts of some saying that they are grateful to get 1 pair.  That absolutely sucks.  As soon as you guys get that pair wet in the field you wont be grateful anymore, but angry because the government could not provide you the kit you need.  IMO the feet are the most important part of the body and need to most care.  I would rather give up my Tac-Vest then have only 1 pair of boots.

Perhaps the system could give out early issueing of the WWB to make up for the 2nd mk 3?  If I were told could only have 1 pair of boots, I would pick something better for the field than garrison.
 
I really wouldn't consider goretex boots to be a viable solution... too warm for summer wear, once you fill them [With water], you're screwed, they're not going to be drying out any time soon. The damned things are just as effective at keeping water in as they are at keeping it out. There's really only a very narrow band of useful conditions for the goretex boots in my mind.

Issuing uninsulated safety boots might do in a pinch, but I can't imagine there are nearly enough stocks of these in the system to meet demands. Jungle boots might do in the summer, but certainly aren't a viable option for the winter fall or spring.

We all know the only real solution is to simply buy more boots. Perhaps it's time for a general revamping of the acquitistion portion of the supply chain?
 
Or, we can go to the American system, choose the ones you want to buy or wear from the 15 different types avail.
 
God bless my size 12.5 F feet...there'll never be a shortage of the big sizes.  ;)
 
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