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Armed drones: Should the Canadian military use the controversial weapons?
'There are multiple different uses for them — not just killing machines,' says professor Stephanie Carvin
Laura Wright
Canada's chief of defence staff announced this week that the Canadian military needs new drones and he wants those drones to be armed — an upgrade that doesn't come without its share of controversy.
Gen. Jonathan Vance's comments came on the heels of a U.S. air strike in Somalia over the weekend that killed 150 militants linked to al-Shabaab. The strike was partly carried out by unmanned drones.
But military use of armed drones is fraught with controversies, from the perceived ease at which drone operators pull the trigger, to the number of civilian deaths associated with drone strikes.
The benefits of using drones, however, are difficult to ignore — namely the fact drone operators don't run the risk of dying in a strike, as fighter-pilots do.
"It's high time that Canada bought that kind of a drone," says Elinor Sloan, an international relations professor at Carleton University. "Arming them simply provides options in a war zone."
As Canada gets set for a possible debate on the topic, here's a look at some of the pros and cons of using armed drones.
Cheaper, more efficient
The use of armed drones is just the next step in the increasing "stand-off character" of warfare, Sloan argues. Humans used to fight hand-to-hand and developed tools to get further and further away from close-up combat.
"Drones just put that effort still further away from direct human contact," she says. "But a human is still in charge and directly tethered to that platform."
Drones are safer for those operating them since pilots can be thousands of kilometres away from their targets, with no risk of physical injury.
And they're relatively cheap, says Stephanie Carvin, an assistant professor of international affairs, also at Carleton University. "There are multiple different uses for them — not just killing machines."
Drones can be better for warfare because of their precision; their surveillance capabilities allow them to follow a target for hours or days before deciding whether to strike.
This allows for what Jesse Kirkpatrick calls "tactical patience."
"It allows individuals to be operating in a cool remove that will allow them to maybe not engage in atrocities that some do after the stress of battle takes its toll on them," says Kirkpatrick, the assistant director of the Institute for Philosophy and Public Policy at Virginia's George Mason University.
Sloan and Carvin both say drone pilots often don't act alone — up to 25 people can be involved in a mission, including the U.S. president.
Despite drones' ability to be more effective, Kirkpatrick says that "cool remove" can be unsettling.
"You have someone who seems to be hunting individuals from 3,000 miles away and can patiently wait for them," he says. "I think that image bothers people."
Civilian casualties
Despite the benefits, some say there is a high civilian death toll associated with drone strikes. The problem is those numbers are incredibly difficult to verify.
"We just don't have good data," says Carvin. "Those reports are based on the U.S. program, and are based on reports from far-off areas that we don't have access to."
She adds that some of the reports only looked at a small number of drone strikes, which can skew the data. "They're deeply methodologically flawed."
Drone pilots are sometimes disparagingly called "chair pilots," as there is a perception that their distance from the scene of a strike allows them to more easily pull the trigger.
But Kirkpatrick says he found drone pilots suffer psychological trauma at a comparable rate to fighter pilots.
"That can lead us to speculatively conclude that it's not like playing a video game — the killing and the harm feels very real," he says.
Secrecy, myths
The public perception of the U.S. drone program in particular has not been helped by the fact it is shrouded in secrecy.
"One of the main issues is its lack of transparency, and there are significant issues for democratic oversight, participation and civilian control of the military," says Kirkpatrick. He adds this secrecy makes it very difficult to determine how many civilians are being harmed.
The U.S. government claims no civilians have been killed, but that's debatable based on who they define as a combatant.
"Observers say the only reason you can claim this is that the definition of what it means to be a combatant is way too broad," says Sarah Kreps, an associate professor of governance and law at Cornell University who has written two books about drones.
Whether the Canadian military eventually moves to using armed drones may be a debate that's missing the point; Carvin says it doesn't make a difference if the military kills people with F-18 fighter jets or with armed drones.
"[Drones] are a shiny object and we all get distracted because it's a new technology and that's understandable," she says. "But what we need to be asking is: 'What is the actual policy that we're using this for?'"
Canada should consider buying drones, she says, if they can potentially contribute to the country's future military missions — not just because everyone else has them.
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It would be a nice starting point for people to understand:
a. drones and RPAs/UAVs/UASs are not the same;
b. drones cannot have pilots and 'drones' [RPAs/UASs/UAVs] aren't always able to go out and play when their big brothers Fighters and MPAs are able to. They are more scared of weather and storms and stuff. They have their CAPS, and they have their LIMS.
c. looking at stuff you see 'thru the straw' on a screen orbiting above a point/target/whatever or on a screen XXXX km's away thru a feed is likely not all that different. Watching stuff on a screen is watching stuff on a screen. It will take whatever toll it takes, regardless of if it's from a manned or unmanned platform.
d. not to discount the knowledge of professionals in their fields, the professors in the article, etc, but until they find themselves actual 'links of the chain' involved in targeting and striking, it is (IMO) hard for them to know what it actually feels like to be a link in that chain. I can tell you how awesome the strawberry ice cream I had at supper was, but you won't really get it until you eat that ice cream yourself. You might find it tastes horrible compared to what you imagined it would...never know until you take a bite.
:2c: from a scope dope.
Armed drones: Should the Canadian military use the controversial weapons?
'There are multiple different uses for them — not just killing machines,' says professor Stephanie Carvin
Laura Wright
Canada's chief of defence staff announced this week that the Canadian military needs new drones and he wants those drones to be armed — an upgrade that doesn't come without its share of controversy.
Gen. Jonathan Vance's comments came on the heels of a U.S. air strike in Somalia over the weekend that killed 150 militants linked to al-Shabaab. The strike was partly carried out by unmanned drones.
But military use of armed drones is fraught with controversies, from the perceived ease at which drone operators pull the trigger, to the number of civilian deaths associated with drone strikes.
The benefits of using drones, however, are difficult to ignore — namely the fact drone operators don't run the risk of dying in a strike, as fighter-pilots do.
"It's high time that Canada bought that kind of a drone," says Elinor Sloan, an international relations professor at Carleton University. "Arming them simply provides options in a war zone."
As Canada gets set for a possible debate on the topic, here's a look at some of the pros and cons of using armed drones.
Cheaper, more efficient
The use of armed drones is just the next step in the increasing "stand-off character" of warfare, Sloan argues. Humans used to fight hand-to-hand and developed tools to get further and further away from close-up combat.
"Drones just put that effort still further away from direct human contact," she says. "But a human is still in charge and directly tethered to that platform."
Drones are safer for those operating them since pilots can be thousands of kilometres away from their targets, with no risk of physical injury.
And they're relatively cheap, says Stephanie Carvin, an assistant professor of international affairs, also at Carleton University. "There are multiple different uses for them — not just killing machines."
Drones can be better for warfare because of their precision; their surveillance capabilities allow them to follow a target for hours or days before deciding whether to strike.
This allows for what Jesse Kirkpatrick calls "tactical patience."
"It allows individuals to be operating in a cool remove that will allow them to maybe not engage in atrocities that some do after the stress of battle takes its toll on them," says Kirkpatrick, the assistant director of the Institute for Philosophy and Public Policy at Virginia's George Mason University.
Sloan and Carvin both say drone pilots often don't act alone — up to 25 people can be involved in a mission, including the U.S. president.
Despite drones' ability to be more effective, Kirkpatrick says that "cool remove" can be unsettling.
"You have someone who seems to be hunting individuals from 3,000 miles away and can patiently wait for them," he says. "I think that image bothers people."
Civilian casualties
Despite the benefits, some say there is a high civilian death toll associated with drone strikes. The problem is those numbers are incredibly difficult to verify.
"We just don't have good data," says Carvin. "Those reports are based on the U.S. program, and are based on reports from far-off areas that we don't have access to."
She adds that some of the reports only looked at a small number of drone strikes, which can skew the data. "They're deeply methodologically flawed."
Drone pilots are sometimes disparagingly called "chair pilots," as there is a perception that their distance from the scene of a strike allows them to more easily pull the trigger.
But Kirkpatrick says he found drone pilots suffer psychological trauma at a comparable rate to fighter pilots.
"That can lead us to speculatively conclude that it's not like playing a video game — the killing and the harm feels very real," he says.
Secrecy, myths
The public perception of the U.S. drone program in particular has not been helped by the fact it is shrouded in secrecy.
"One of the main issues is its lack of transparency, and there are significant issues for democratic oversight, participation and civilian control of the military," says Kirkpatrick. He adds this secrecy makes it very difficult to determine how many civilians are being harmed.
The U.S. government claims no civilians have been killed, but that's debatable based on who they define as a combatant.
"Observers say the only reason you can claim this is that the definition of what it means to be a combatant is way too broad," says Sarah Kreps, an associate professor of governance and law at Cornell University who has written two books about drones.
Whether the Canadian military eventually moves to using armed drones may be a debate that's missing the point; Carvin says it doesn't make a difference if the military kills people with F-18 fighter jets or with armed drones.
"[Drones] are a shiny object and we all get distracted because it's a new technology and that's understandable," she says. "But what we need to be asking is: 'What is the actual policy that we're using this for?'"
Canada should consider buying drones, she says, if they can potentially contribute to the country's future military missions — not just because everyone else has them.
---------------------------------------------------------
It would be a nice starting point for people to understand:
a. drones and RPAs/UAVs/UASs are not the same;
b. drones cannot have pilots and 'drones' [RPAs/UASs/UAVs] aren't always able to go out and play when their big brothers Fighters and MPAs are able to. They are more scared of weather and storms and stuff. They have their CAPS, and they have their LIMS.
c. looking at stuff you see 'thru the straw' on a screen orbiting above a point/target/whatever or on a screen XXXX km's away thru a feed is likely not all that different. Watching stuff on a screen is watching stuff on a screen. It will take whatever toll it takes, regardless of if it's from a manned or unmanned platform.
d. not to discount the knowledge of professionals in their fields, the professors in the article, etc, but until they find themselves actual 'links of the chain' involved in targeting and striking, it is (IMO) hard for them to know what it actually feels like to be a link in that chain. I can tell you how awesome the strawberry ice cream I had at supper was, but you won't really get it until you eat that ice cream yourself. You might find it tastes horrible compared to what you imagined it would...never know until you take a bite.
:2c: from a scope dope.
