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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070704.waghanlayton07043/BNStory/Front
Has he ever even talked to a CF member.
He seems to think that everyone here thinks that the solution is purely military. :
I remember how we won ww2 through 'peace-oriented discussions'.
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I dunno, having met and talked to Layton I have to say he seems smart and to believe what he says, but I disagree with it so much.....
edit: another good article with comments from Douglas Bland
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=68947b61-ffa4-4ee6-b7c9-8b4884b9cf6f&k=66811
edit #2:
http://www.ndp.ca/page/5496
Edited by Vern to correct typo in topic title.
Layton says Afghan deaths too high a cost
Canadian Press
July 4, 2007 at 12:25 PM EDT
OTTAWA — The Prime Minister needs to engineer a scale-back of military operations in Afghanistan in the face of mounting civilian and military deaths, NDP Leader Jack Layton said Wednesday as six more NATO troops were reported killed.
Mr. Layton said Prime Minister Stephen Harper needs to show leadership by urging the United States to stop high-altitude bombing in the war-torn country and withdrawing Canadian troops from what he characterized as a hopeless mission.
“It's the wrong mission; it's not working; it's not going to accomplish the goals,” said Mr. Layton, adding his party will ensure the issue is front and centre in coming federal byelections.
NATO's presence in Afghanistan is only boosting Afghan support for the Taliban, he said, adding the only way to peace is through negotiation. He urged Harper to take a lead role in establishing a peace process.
New Democratic Party leader Jack Layton discusses Canada's mission in Afghanistan at a news conference in Ottawa Wednesday. (New Democratic Party leader Jack Layton discusses Canada's mission in Afghanistan at a news conference in Ottawa Wednesday.)
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Six NATO soldiers killed in southern Afghanistan
Mr. Layton said 270 Afghan civilians have been killed during military operations in Afghanistan this year alone.
His news conference was held as NATO announced a roadside bomb had hit a military vehicle in a volatile region of Kandahar province, killing six soldiers and their Afghan interpreter.
The war is escalating and Ottawa's commitment to provide troops to the NATO alliance in Afghanistan for at least two more years is ill-conceived, Mr. Layton said.
He wants Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion and Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe to reconsider their positions on Canada's role in Afghanistan and join the NDP in calling for Canada's immediate withdrawal.
He said Canadians should voice their opposition to the war by voting against the government in the byelections, expected before summer's end.
“The strategy we're following is wrong; we should take our troops out,” he said.
“Students of history will know that all major conflicts are resolved, ultimately, through peace-oriented discussions. . . . And that's what needs to happen here.”
Ottawa has committed troops to Afghanistan through February 2009. Mr. Harper has said he will seek an all-party consensus in Parliament on Canada's future role with the NATO force, if any.
Has he ever even talked to a CF member.
He seems to think that everyone here thinks that the solution is purely military. :
I remember how we won ww2 through 'peace-oriented discussions'.
:
I dunno, having met and talked to Layton I have to say he seems smart and to believe what he says, but I disagree with it so much.....
edit: another good article with comments from Douglas Bland
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=68947b61-ffa4-4ee6-b7c9-8b4884b9cf6f&k=66811
edit #2:
http://www.ndp.ca/page/5496
Statement by NDP leader Jack Layton on the combat mission in Afghanistan
Wed 4 Jul 2007 | Printer friendly
The growing civilian death toll in Afghanistan at the hands of NATO forces is more disturbing evidence that the counter-insurgency mission is not working.
These deaths mark an escalation in the conflict. We have lost more Canadians in this - our heaviest combat, since Korea.
We support our troops and their families and it is out of the deep respect for each and everyone of them that we seek a de-escalation of this conflict.
We learned with great sadness from Afghan officials, that 45 civilians were killed this weekend by a NATO air strike.
According to the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission - the organization which Prime Minister Harper and his government have entrusted to monitor detainees - over 270 civilians have been killed in military operations by international forces, so far this year.
Two-hundred and seventy.
This is unacceptable.
It is unacceptable to Canadians, and to the Afghan people.
On Monday, the Afghan ambassador to the United States asked foreign forces to limit the use of high altitude bombing in their campaigns.
Yesterday, the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission, responding to the surge in civilian deaths including the deaths of 7 children in a single attack, called on NATO to minimize civilian casualities.
Today I am calling on the Prime Minister to take a leadership role and add Canada’s voice in telling both the Bush administration and the North Atlantic Council of NATO that the level of Afghan civilian deaths is unacceptable and that indiscriminate and deadly airstrikes be stopped. Airstrikes which are only adding to the escalation to a war that shows no signs of ending.
The ratio of combatants versus Afghan civilians killed by NATO forces is quickly reaching the 50-50 mark. Clearly, the current strategy is not working.
Mr. Harper isn’t building the conditions for a lasting peace.
He’s fuelling the conditions for an escalating war.
That’s not what Canadians want.
And never before has the need for leadership on this issue been greater.
As Parliament rose for its summer recess, the Standing Committee on Defence, tabled its report on the current mission in Afghanistan.
Amazingly the Liberals tabled what it called a “complementary” report – simply accepting most of the government’s recommendations on the mission.
That’s not leadership.
Stephane Dion and the Bloc Quebecois seek to have Canada’s involvement in this mission continue for two more years.
We believe that two-more years is two years too long.
I call on Stephane Dion and Gilles Duceppe to answer the question – to their fellow Quebeckers and fellow Canadians - “if the mission is wrong in 2009 – why isn’t it also wrong in 2007?”
In the upcoming by-elections, voters will finally have an opportunity to have their say on Canada’s involvement in this mission.
The choice is clear.
They can vote for parties that got us into this mission, extended this mission, or who want it to go on another two years – or they can vote for the NDP.
Canadians want us to go in a different direction in Afghanistan – it’s time the Prime Minister started listening to them.
Thank you.
Edited by Vern to correct typo in topic title.