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Okay let me start this off with saying THE CAF DOES NOT OWE ME A JOB.
Here's the situation I'm in.
I applied as a DEO candidate in May of 2019 hoping to take the AEC and possibly ACSO route. I wrote my CFAT and conducted the TSD in July, and was fairly confident with how well I did (of course they did not share my results with me) and qualified for both AEC and ACSO as well as several other occupations such as NWO and MP and no issues arose from my TSD.
Naturally, while waiting for my security screening to clear, the CFRC had me booked for aircrew selection at Trenton in September as the next step in my application (for those of you who do not know, anyone pursuing a role as an AEC/ACSO/PILOT needs to go through 8 hours of rigorous computer based simulations over the span of two days at Trenton). I completed Aircrew Selection, and did fairly well. Out of the 21 people in my group, only 7 qualified for any of the three trades with me qualifying for both ACSO and AEC, and barely missing the mark for PILOT.
When I was being debriefed by the recruitment officer about my test scores she asked me which role I wanted to apply for, and I told her I only wanted to do AEC and asked her if my scores were competitive. She told me that I scored well above average for applicants who met the ACS cutoff applying for AEC, pointed at the results page in front of me and told me that the way the results are being represented on the paper are misleading and it understates how well I did for the AEC scoring. She then looked me in the eyes and with a dead serious tone said "your score is competitive".
After I came back from Trenton, the last step was the medical and interview. A week before I was scheduled to go into the CFRC and conduct those last two components I received a call from my CFRC saying "There's only a handful of spots left for AEC for this year, so they upped the CFAT mimimum score, your score from July now no longer makes the cut, so you cant interview for AEC". I then asked about ACSO, and he said "they did the same for ACSO, and you no longer qualify for this either, but you still qualify for every other trade you originally qualified for in July." I told him I wasn't interested in anything else and he told me that I should close my file, and hope that CFAT minimum scores go back to what they were in 2020 when the new fiscal year begins and new allotment numbers come out for each trade and to try to book the interview for January (but no guarantees).
I asked him what about my ACS score? He told me that my score has no bearing on this decision (so hypothetically a candidate could have set course records for ACS, but if they didn't score perfect on the CFAT, they'd have a risk of being pulled out of the application process at any given moment). He also told me that there was nothing wrong with my application in any of the other segments, but I just no longer meet the CFAT threshold. By that token, it means it doesn't matter how well an applicant does on any component of the application process such as the interview or in my case ACS, if you dont get perfect on the CFAT, you are vulnerable to being retroactively disqualified for a trade you had initially qualified for.
The member of my CFRC then told me that I need to understand that they have thousands and thousands of applications for all trades and that the DEO application method is lengthy. What I'm trying to understand is this: Is this the CAF's way of putting applicants who are still not merit listed close to the end of the current fiscal year on the back burner while they focus on other segments of applicants, or is this a unique situation where I'm basically dead in the water?
To be clear, I didn't have a cavalier attitude that I'd write the CFAT at the end of July of 2019, get merit listed, and given a job offer by the end of 2019 all in the span of 6 months, but I sure as heck wasn't expecting to be completely pulled out of the application process as a whole retroactively especially after successfully passing Aircrew Selection.
TL;DR I've been retroactively disqualified for a trade I initially qualified for because they moved the CFAT minimum score up for it with no way of me counterbalancing this through other segments of my application and despite me showing promise in the subsequent job-specific testing.
Here's the situation I'm in.
I applied as a DEO candidate in May of 2019 hoping to take the AEC and possibly ACSO route. I wrote my CFAT and conducted the TSD in July, and was fairly confident with how well I did (of course they did not share my results with me) and qualified for both AEC and ACSO as well as several other occupations such as NWO and MP and no issues arose from my TSD.
Naturally, while waiting for my security screening to clear, the CFRC had me booked for aircrew selection at Trenton in September as the next step in my application (for those of you who do not know, anyone pursuing a role as an AEC/ACSO/PILOT needs to go through 8 hours of rigorous computer based simulations over the span of two days at Trenton). I completed Aircrew Selection, and did fairly well. Out of the 21 people in my group, only 7 qualified for any of the three trades with me qualifying for both ACSO and AEC, and barely missing the mark for PILOT.
When I was being debriefed by the recruitment officer about my test scores she asked me which role I wanted to apply for, and I told her I only wanted to do AEC and asked her if my scores were competitive. She told me that I scored well above average for applicants who met the ACS cutoff applying for AEC, pointed at the results page in front of me and told me that the way the results are being represented on the paper are misleading and it understates how well I did for the AEC scoring. She then looked me in the eyes and with a dead serious tone said "your score is competitive".
After I came back from Trenton, the last step was the medical and interview. A week before I was scheduled to go into the CFRC and conduct those last two components I received a call from my CFRC saying "There's only a handful of spots left for AEC for this year, so they upped the CFAT mimimum score, your score from July now no longer makes the cut, so you cant interview for AEC". I then asked about ACSO, and he said "they did the same for ACSO, and you no longer qualify for this either, but you still qualify for every other trade you originally qualified for in July." I told him I wasn't interested in anything else and he told me that I should close my file, and hope that CFAT minimum scores go back to what they were in 2020 when the new fiscal year begins and new allotment numbers come out for each trade and to try to book the interview for January (but no guarantees).
I asked him what about my ACS score? He told me that my score has no bearing on this decision (so hypothetically a candidate could have set course records for ACS, but if they didn't score perfect on the CFAT, they'd have a risk of being pulled out of the application process at any given moment). He also told me that there was nothing wrong with my application in any of the other segments, but I just no longer meet the CFAT threshold. By that token, it means it doesn't matter how well an applicant does on any component of the application process such as the interview or in my case ACS, if you dont get perfect on the CFAT, you are vulnerable to being retroactively disqualified for a trade you had initially qualified for.
The member of my CFRC then told me that I need to understand that they have thousands and thousands of applications for all trades and that the DEO application method is lengthy. What I'm trying to understand is this: Is this the CAF's way of putting applicants who are still not merit listed close to the end of the current fiscal year on the back burner while they focus on other segments of applicants, or is this a unique situation where I'm basically dead in the water?
To be clear, I didn't have a cavalier attitude that I'd write the CFAT at the end of July of 2019, get merit listed, and given a job offer by the end of 2019 all in the span of 6 months, but I sure as heck wasn't expecting to be completely pulled out of the application process as a whole retroactively especially after successfully passing Aircrew Selection.
TL;DR I've been retroactively disqualified for a trade I initially qualified for because they moved the CFAT minimum score up for it with no way of me counterbalancing this through other segments of my application and despite me showing promise in the subsequent job-specific testing.
