Brad Sallows
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I wonder that anyone can believe that cultural insults can only go in one direction.
Swearing allegiance to rights and treaties refers to two different things:
1) Aboriginal rights, which is the archaic notion that heredity - the accident of birth - should grant people different treatment before the law.
It looked like a number of the people and elected chiefs supported the pipeline. The hereditary chiefs were against it.
Thank you. That's good info to know.Winnipeg is investigating.
Realize that in any of these big protests, there are a lot of cameras and binoculars about. Best practice, if people aren’t already getting hurt, is to avoid inflaming the situation through arrests right now when they can instead follow later. It’s not worth sending a crowd control arrest team into an angry mob over a statue- I guarantee you’ll see way more tax dollars spent on a couple injured police than on cleaning and repairing a statue. Much safer to identify people now and effect arrests later, if It’s purely a matter of property damage or minor stupidity.
You should listen to a group of (incarcerated) indigenous people speak about black people. You think the good old boys from the deep south are bad...I wonder that anyone can believe that cultural insults can only go in one direction.
It would seem internecine politics is endemic in all systems:I was following a debate somewhere about the Wet'suwet'en pipeline saga. It looked like a number of the people and elected chiefs supported the pipeline. The hereditary chiefs were against it. Someone was saying the supreme court of Canada recognized the authority of the hereditary chiefs over elected chiefs (or words to that effect). If accurate that's one of the downsides of the traditional practices of aboriginals.
Winnipeg is investigating.
Realize that in any of these big protests, there are a lot of cameras and binoculars about. Best practice, if people aren’t already getting hurt, is to avoid inflaming the situation through arrests right now when they can instead follow later. It’s not worth sending a crowd control arrest team into an angry mob over a statue- I guarantee you’ll see way more tax dollars spent on a couple injured police than on cleaning and repairing a statue. Much safer to identify people now and effect arrests later, if It’s purely a matter of property damage or minor stupidity.
But did anyone up there accuse you of being a ‘colonial facilitator’?Just to add to the complexity, Blueberry was where my colleague and I where accused of being the spawn of Satan because we were doing regulatory consulting for Site C.
Court drops bombshell on B.C. natural gas industry
BC infringed treaty, must stop approving industrial development in natural gas heartlandbiv.com
Frankly I feel pride and relief that our policing profession doesn’t behave the way seen in places like Russia. would the Russians go in and crack skulls to save a statue? Sure. Is that in line with our values? Doubtful.Sometimes Law and Order requires a strong hand and a immediate stopping of these actions. If this was Russia the cops would have marched in there and started hitting everyone who was in the way with batons and I guarantee you they would have stopped their illegal actions pretty quickly. Not saying that should be our immediate go to, but if someone is breaking the law and they are seen getting away with it, it causes others to become emboldened to do it elsewhere. The reason so many statues are being torn down is because there is no seen consequences to not tearing them down. Sometimes it isn't about the money, rather the principal.
What degree of bodily harm is
Frankly I feel pride and relief that our policing profession doesn’t behave the way seen in places like Russia. would the Russians go in and crack skulls to save a statue? Sure. Is that in line with our values? Doubtful.
What degree of bodily harm is a statue worth? I’m on a public order unit. How far would you have us go in the moment to stop people pulling a statue down and effect immediate arrest? How much injury are you willing to risk to me or the men and women to my right and left over it? Just how heavy-handed would you have us be? Personally I see a huge different between something like pulling down a statue that’s easily remade, versus a riot that’s destroying businesses and institutions, setting fires, etc.
Right now we have a societal tension that’s causing a lot of pressure. Do we want to make a pressure cooker out of it, or instead let that pressure bleed off? Given the underlying issues in all of this, I’m not sure sending a bunch of (mostly white) police in to suppress dissent, protests, and relatively minor vandalism by force necessarily serves the larger strategic objectives of our government. But that’s just me.
I ask that the police enforce the laws, especially if they see them being broken in front of their faces. People are starting to believe the law doesn't apply to them just because their personal social issue is popular at the moment. They are literally being taught that as long as they are 'peaceful' they can act as they please. As a society we need to make sure they understand they break the law, there is immediate consequences. We have rule of law for a reason, go to your local officials if you want something changed, but we need to set a hardline that breaking the law to effect your personal social goals will not be accepted.What degree of bodily harm is
Frankly I feel pride and relief that our policing profession doesn’t behave the way seen in places like Russia. would the Russians go in and crack skulls to save a statue? Sure. Is that in line with our values? Doubtful.
What degree of bodily harm is a statue worth? I’m on a public order unit. How far would you have us go in the moment to stop people pulling a statue down and effect immediate arrest? How much injury are you willing to risk to me or the men and women to my right and left over it? Just how heavy-handed would you have us be? Personally I see a huge different between something like pulling down a statue that’s easily remade, versus a riot that’s destroying businesses and institutions, setting fires, etc.
Right now we have a societal tension that’s causing a lot of pressure. Do we want to make a pressure cooker out of it, or instead let that pressure bleed off? Given the underlying issues in all of this, I’m not sure sending a bunch of (mostly white) police in to suppress dissent, protests, and relatively minor vandalism by force necessarily serves the larger strategic objectives of our government. But that’s just me.
What degree of bodily harm is
Frankly I feel pride and relief that our policing profession doesn’t behave the way seen in places like Russia. would the Russians go in and crack skulls to save a statue? Sure. Is that in line with our values? Doubtful.
What degree of bodily harm is a statue worth? I’m on a public order unit. How far would you have us go in the moment to stop people pulling a statue down and effect immediate arrest? How much injury are you willing to risk to me or the men and women to my right and left over it? Just how heavy-handed would you have us be? Personally I see a huge different between something like pulling down a statue that’s easily remade, versus a riot that’s destroying businesses and institutions, setting fires, etc.
Right now we have a societal tension that’s causing a lot of pressure. Do we want to make a pressure cooker out of it, or instead let that pressure bleed off? Given the underlying issues in all of this, I’m not sure sending a bunch of (mostly white) police in to suppress dissent, protests, and relatively minor vandalism by force necessarily serves the larger strategic objectives of our government. But that’s just me.
I guess sometimes citizens take protection of statues into their own hands. Police try to prevent both sides from killing each other.Risk of injury is part of the job you signed up for, enforcing the laws are literally the core component of your profession.
I guarantee you’ll see way more tax dollars spent on a couple injured police than on cleaning and repairing a statue.
I have a question for y'all:
During the Colton Bouchie murder trial the term "settler law" was brought up. To me this indicates that some view us Caucasians as "settlers" when we were in fact born here. The term "colonizers" has also come up.
Don't even get me started on the "We are all immigrants" train of thought.
Am I being a bit too sensitive? Food for thought.