AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

[Cloud Cover]

Here is a ship design proposal that is trying to do far too many things at once:

Steller Systems unveil ‘Fearless’ Multi Role Support Ship concept | Navy Lookout

www.navylookout.com

It’s almost

• a San Antonio class but flight deck is too small.
• a frigate or destroyer ala Absalon but too big for that
• a replacement for Albion but nowhere near the capacity
• a replacement for the Bay Class but too small, too complex, too well armed

And:

• probably not an RFA
• requires RFA skill sets already divested to the Bay class
• likely nobody consulted the RM or RN who would have to use the thing.

On the foregoing basis, I see the RN ordering not 6 but 10 because they seem to check a lot of boxes in the fleet capability gap matrix.

 

[dimsum]

Here is a ship design proposal that is trying to do far too many things at once:

Steller Systems unveil ‘Fearless’ Multi Role Support Ship concept | Navy Lookout

www.navylookout.com

It’s almost

• a San Antonio class but flight deck is too small.
• a frigate or destroyer ala Absalon but too big for that
• a replacement for Albion but nowhere near the capacity
• a replacement for the Bay Class but too small, too complex, too well armed

And:

• probably not an RFA
• requires RFA skill sets already divested to the Bay class
• likely nobody consulted the RM or RN who would have to use the thing.

On the foregoing basis, I see the RN ordering not 6 but 10 because they seem to check a lot of boxes in the fleet capability gap matrix.

Hey, procurement dumbassery isn’t limited to the CAF.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Here is a ship design proposal that is trying to do far too many things at once:

Steller Systems unveil ‘Fearless’ Multi Role Support Ship concept | Navy Lookout

www.navylookout.com

It’s almost

• a San Antonio class but flight deck is too small.
• a frigate or destroyer ala Absalon but too big for that
• a replacement for Albion but nowhere near the capacity
• a replacement for the Bay Class but too small, too complex, too well armed

And:

• probably not an RFA
• requires RFA skill sets already divested to the Bay class
• likely nobody consulted the RM or RN who would have to use the thing.

On the foregoing basis, I see the RN ordering not 6 but 10 because they seem to check a lot of boxes in the fleet capability gap matrix.

Kind of like the Big Cods old idea of a Big Honkin Ship.

 

[Kirkhill]

Kind of like the Big Cods old idea of a Big Honkin Ship.

Here is the alternative to the Fearless, the Ellida.

BMT develop second generation ELLIDA multi-role and logistic vessel concept | Navy Lookout

www.navylookout.com

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Here is a ship design proposal that is trying to do far too many things at once:

Steller Systems unveil ‘Fearless’ Multi Role Support Ship concept | Navy Lookout

www.navylookout.com

It’s almost

• a San Antonio class but flight deck is too small.
• a frigate or destroyer ala Absalon but too big for that
• a replacement for Albion but nowhere near the capacity
• a replacement for the Bay Class but too small, too complex, too well armed

And:

• probably not an RFA
• requires RFA skill sets already divested to the Bay class
• likely nobody consulted the RM or RN who would have to use the thing.

On the foregoing basis, I see the RN ordering not 6 but 10 because they seem to check a lot of boxes in the fleet capability gap matrix.

Meanwhile

UK Royal Fleet Auxiliary Officers to Begin Industrial Action Amid Ongoing Pay Dispute

Officers of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary (RFA) represented by Nautilus International, have announced plans for industrial action starting 1 June 2024, the union announced Friday. The RFA, a civilian-manned fleet...

gcaptain.com

 

[Cloud Cover]

Here is the alternative to the Fearless, the Ellida.

BMT develop second generation ELLIDA multi-role and logistic vessel concept | Navy Lookout

www.navylookout.com

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Whatever happened to the Enforcer series?

 

[Kirkhill]

Whatever happened to the Enforcer series?

The lines of that Ellida look similar to some of the Enforcer models.

The Karel Doorman is the Multi Role Support Ship that is what the Joint Support Ship was supposed to be.

HNLMS Karel Doorman (A833) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is the Dutch/Portuguese MRSS from Damen.

Damen unveils new Multi-Purpose Support Ship MPSS - Naval News

Damen has unveiled a new ship design based on modern defence and security requirements. The Multi-Purpose Support Ship (MPSS).

www.navalnews.com

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Pretty small tonnage for such a craft? (7,000-8,000DWT)

 

[Rainbow1910]

Pretty small tonnage for such a craft? (7,000-8,000DWT)

It is specifically developed with Portugal as a customer, so it is largely centered around being as cost effectively as humanly possible.

 

[GK .Dundas]

It is specifically developed with Portugal as a customer, so it is largely centered around being as cost effectively as humanly possible.

Read cheap.